SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby SwirlyMats on 23 Jun 2009, 20:19

AversaS wrote:Okay, I am not going to read through 7 pages. You are saying that v2 of Swirly will NOT work with 3.0. THEN REFUND OUR MONEY! That is an effing scam! WTF!? Complete bullsh!t. How can you do that? On top of which, how can you tell v2 users that, soon it will work with 3.0 and then all of a sudden take it away? Not being able to release it near immediately, as stated, is one thing. But completely taking it away? That is taking FULL advantage over your subscribers.


How on earth can anyone misinterpret this?????????????????????:
"We are working hard getting version 2.1 out and it will happen sooner than later."

which is taken verbatim from the first post in this thread.

Of course SwirlyMMSv2 will work on iPhoneOS3. We have a beta running now with our beta testers and very soon it will be out publicly.
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby frustrated1 on 23 Jun 2009, 21:23

Mats - I dont know how you have the patience..
You guys were the first to bring mms capability to the iphone, for free initially.

You asked for feedback, which users were only to happy to give. You guys acted on peoples requests to improve the product. You created an application that apple, windows, any mobile operator would be proud to have produced and no surprise you requested a small fee for what is a quality product.

Any promises you and your team have made in the past - you have held up and come through for us on.
People used to laugh at iphone owners - cant even use mms.. ha! not since this app came in.
(We still cant even forward an sms with apple's standard sms app in 3.0 - how laughable is that)


Anyway - I just wanted to thank you guys for all your hard work. The request price is well worth it and more.
No one has been forced to upgrade to 3.0 - and all could have waited until you confirmed you had a working version available.. All products have to be verified with next version OS's... you think you can buy an app for windows 98 and expect it to work on XP immediately.

There appear to be a lot of people who obviously have no clue about the development required, and obviously dived in with 2 large feet without thinking before upgrading, and they are trying to pin the blame on you when in fact it was their stupidity that left them in the situation in the first place.


Just a note to say thanks for all your work to date, I have not yet upgraded to 3.0 as I look forward to the time that Swirly is available and working on 3.0 - For now I will gladly stay on v2 and use swirly and all the features.
Apple may have released mms on 3.0 but obviously from these posts, it is not sufficient to cover the wider community. I think many users will continue to use swirly for a long time... you have a big edge over apple in that you are willing to listen to customers and act on product improvement ideas.. As I said - still apple sms cannot forward messages and users have complained about that basic feature since the original iphone was launched.


Thanks and please ignore the ignorant users posting messages with hatred in their tone.
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby Mj0470 on 23 Jun 2009, 23:02

My complaints are as follows.... First, if it wasn't going to be 3.0 compatible, they should have made it more clear. By saying the "new version" will be 3.0 compliant is misleading..... They should have been crystal clear that no currently available versions would work on 3.0.....

Secondly, to hear nothing at all from them about a potential release date, and having read that past updates took very long, is very poor customer service.

So, they're just two guys writing script out of their basement.... and have any of you looked at how many times their program has been downloaded????? 2,461,251.... if 1 of 5 actually paid for it.... and paid the lower $6 price, that's still almost 3 million dollars... so, I doubt that they have day jobs... they're probably sipping rum somewhere... which they deserve for their ingenuity....

But, since I was so accustomed to having MMS and didn't notice that swirly didn't work on 3.0, I decided to be a little more proactive..... and with a lot of information gained from other people's experiences, I now have MMS working on my Iphone 3G running 3.0, redSn0w on AT&T..... using the native iphone app (or BiteSMS, my prefered texting program)

Here's a link to how....

http://www.modmyi.com/forums/t/565871-guide-mms-tethering-working-t-3-0-iphone-34.html#post4542061

Hope this helps....
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby valkraider on 23 Jun 2009, 23:13

I have been a software developer since 1994. This ha nothing to do with their coding or hard work or skill.

This is all about managing expectations and providing good customer service when you SELL A PRODUCT.

I am sure the guys work very hard. But the very minute that the 3.0 dev kits came out, Swirly should have started work on making it compatible. Which might be tricky since it is a jailbreak app, but regardless - that is what they should have done.

MMS is not really all that important to ne in the grand scheme of things. But I write code and I work in customer service too. Without happy customers, there is noone to buy my code.

Go back an read what I said. It is 100% customer service related. And, as a Customer who has paid MY MONEY - I have every right to give my opinion on what they should or shouldn't do.

Look at what Apple does... They have given store credits for all sorts of to
es they have done wrong. Just this week they gave $30 credits to 3GS customers who had problems activating their phones. Apple didn't have to. It was all about the "gesture", to earn good will...

Swirly should have made a better gesture for the 1.x customers.

Their code may be amazing. It doesn't make anyone any happier though.
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby Alexio on 23 Jun 2009, 23:39

Mj0470 wrote:My complaints are as follows.... First, if it wasn't going to be 3.0 compatible, they should have made it more clear. By saying the "new version" will be 3.0 compliant is misleading..... They should have been crystal clear that no currently available versions would work on 3.0.....

Secondly, to hear nothing at all from them about a potential release date, and having read that past updates took very long, is very poor customer service.

So, they're just two guys writing script out of their basement.... and have any of you looked at how many times their program has been downloaded????? 2,461,251.... if 1 of 5 actually paid for it.... and paid the lower $6 price, that's still almost 3 million dollars... so, I doubt that they have day jobs... they're probably sipping rum somewhere... which they deserve for their ingenuity....

But, since I was so accustomed to having MMS and didn't notice that swirly didn't work on 3.0, I decided to be a little more proactive..... and with a lot of information gained from other people's experiences, I now have MMS working on my Iphone 3G running 3.0, redSn0w on AT&T..... using the native iphone app (or BiteSMS, my prefered texting program)

Here's a link to how....

http://www.modmyi.com/forums/t/565871-guide-mms-tethering-working-t-3-0-iphone-34.html#post4542061

Hope this helps....


I agree! :?
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby frustrated1 on 24 Jun 2009, 00:02

I think most of you need to start Reading more carefully.
It was clear to most iPhone users who didn't ASSUME life is perfect and isn't the sky pretty, that swirly was not yet ready. How could they be, givin the jailbreak has not been available until very very recently.

As for the comment about small number of updates, a update every few weeks even if it was a month or 2 months is not slow...

If u think the apple mms or mms hack is any better that swirly or that swirly is over priced then of course it's your opinion and every has the right to their own opinion... It's just wrong is all

Apple give store credit because their activation process is crap and didn't work
Swirly team gave notice, advised would not work on 3.0 yet, they have nothing to apologise for

Old versions of swirly work fine and don't change unless the user upgrades either swirly or the iPhone os, if the user chooses to do this blindly and without do so some as a simple search, then they get what they deserve

Stupid is as stupid does. ( I apologise in advance as I know some of the stupid people will be offended)
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby propaint on 24 Jun 2009, 00:13

I could not agree more with frustrated1's post. Just keep plugging away at your excellent app.. For those of us with a 2g or 3G iPhone, on a non Apple approved carrier, Swirly is our best and only option, and a very good one at that. Untalented and smarmy haters will always be around to complain and whine!
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby that_guy on 24 Jun 2009, 01:26

I registered for this forum simply to reply to this post. I must say that what I've read in the replies to this particular post are far and away the most ludicrous, childish, narrow minded, living under a rock, me me me thoughts any collection of human beings have ever produced.

This is an open letter to everyone complaining about having to upgrade to v. 2:

Let's get a few things straight:

1. When you bought an iPhone (up until June 19th, 2009) you knew damn well that there was ZERO support for MMS out of the box.
- So what exactly are you complaining about? You should be happy you can even have MMS on the phone, paid for or not.

2. You were handed, for free, ALL of the tools you need to even be permitted to install an app like Swirly. (ie. no Dev Team, no Swirly)
- If the Dev Team started charging $6 for each model and OS they had to jailbreak, would you say a word? Be happy with what you've already been given!!!

3. You are all living, breathing human beings blessed with the ability to think, evaluate, and act - and then, the kicker, actually realize what you're doing... This is basically the only thing that makes us different from every other animal on the planet.
- So act like one... I've seen this over and over an over... You had a choice, that you should have used that glob of goo between your ears to THINK about; from there you should have EVALUATED your options and then you should have ACTED. Through all of this you should understand and REALIZE what the consequences of your actions are going to be. Whether it's updating to OS 3.0 or what I discuss in point 5.

4. Two guys, wanting to add something cool to the iPhone platform decide to invest their time, and I'm sure plenty of money to create this application. They write one version, decide to upgrade it and release another version. Now, for the 3rd time they're working on another version (not to mention all of the tiny fixes they throw in along the way).
- Until you decide to make a competitor for this app, there is nothing you're going to be able to do about it. I believe someone mentioned something about how "monopolistic" this all is. To that I say - NO SHIT?

5. You expect that because you opted to be cheap (and let's be honest here - anyone who bought v.1 while v.2 was out simply did so because they're cheap. And by cheap I mean, "I can save $4 fucking dollars buying a version nearly 2 years old" cheap.) that you should now be taken care of.
- So really this can be boiled down to a lesson in not being cheap... When you're cheap, you opt for something far inferior to it's more costly competition (not always true, but usually it is). And what usually happens? That cheap piece of crap breaks long before you intended it to and you have to go out an buy another, eventually spending more money than if you'd just been a little less cheap in the beginning.

So yeah, you were cheap, you opted for the $8 version over the $12 version (knowing damn well that if you ever did upgrade your total cost would be more than if you just dropped the lousy $12 in the first place) and now you're complaining that you're "not being taken care of."

And for those of you who will say "it's not about the money" or "I just didn't need the extra features" - FUCK YOU! You're so clearly lying it's pretty silly... Remember you were just too damn cheap to drop 12 fucking dollars the first time around, so why do you expect anyone to believe that it has anything more to do with than continued cheapness?

Grow up... Pay $6 to these guys and live on. And if you're really wrestling with $6 - what on earth are you doing owning and operating one of the most expensive phones on the market? Sounds like daddy remembered to pick up the new boat, but forgot how to pay for the kids dinner...
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby llnbll on 24 Jun 2009, 01:36

ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS WHEN WILL THE NEW VERSION BE OUT??? I WANT WHAT I PAID FOR... THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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Re: SwirlyMMS 2.0.2 and 1.3.2 on iPhoneOS3

Postby venturac on 24 Jun 2009, 07:20

I really don't even need Swirly now. I have had Swirly working with ATT since November of 08' now. Since some guy names gQstatus set my setting up at the ATT side ( I think he worked there) I have been able to MMS for a long time. I actually have MMS now like it's supposed to be in the new 3.0 OS. I have MMS in the regular text messages now. I can actually recieve pictures (including animated gifs), audio clips, and movies all without Swirly. However, I do have to say that I like the way Swirly is set up better.

If you're wondering how I got it set up it was pretty easy after Googling it. You have to downgrade to a certain version of iTunes and download a IPCC file that will let you tether and mms. It was easy. However as I said I know other iPhone users who have done this and they aren't able to send or recieve any type of multimedia message. Again I beleive it has to be set up on the back end at ATT. I've heard they won't even let you use this feature until late summer. If I had a webcam or digital video camera I would demonstrate that I have it working and tell everyone how. I knew my MMS would work without Swirly and in the regular iPhone 3.0 OS because I had been able to send and recieve MMS since last November becuase some guy set it up for me. I anyone has any questions you can pm me or email me at [email protected] and I'll be glad to help you out.

Thanks,

TV
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