Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby Fabian Cortez on 21 Jul 2008, 07:14

Seems straight forward enough. ;)

This is the main reason (lack of SwirlyMMS) I haven't gone to 2.0 yet.

So what do you think Mats and Tommy?
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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby Othello on 21 Jul 2008, 11:10

2.0 jailbroken firmware for 1.X is already out, but i do not tend to upgrade it till Swirlymms for 2.0 firmware suited, this software is quite important and useful fo me, hope it will be come out as soon as possible. Carry on, my pal.
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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby gazzer82 on 21 Jul 2008, 13:24

Hello all. First I can confirm that it does NOT work on 2.0 in its current release. :(
We are now working on to fix it up to do so.
It will come on Cydia (and the Installer if the Installer ever comes to 2.0).
Exactly how long this will take is impossible to say since we havent compiled a single row for 2.0 yet. According to some secure sources though it should be fairly easy.
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So we shall have to wait for it to be tweaked to work with the 2.0.
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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby Alexio on 21 Jul 2008, 16:23

SERBIAN wrote:Can you maybe try to port Swirly to work with Cydia installer? It works with 2.0 so maybe you can do something and we all can test the app under 2.0..Just a thought..:)

http://www.modmyifone.com/forums/news/2 ... 2-0-a.html


Believe me.. this will never happen!
You will have to wait and wait and wait.... It doesn't matter how much you have donated to the project. :cry:
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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby Leebo on 21 Jul 2008, 17:20

Alexio wrote:
SERBIAN wrote:Can you maybe try to port Swirly to work with Cydia installer? It works with 2.0 so maybe you can do something and we all can test the app under 2.0..Just a thought..:)

http://www.modmyifone.com/forums/news/2 ... 2-0-a.html


Believe me.. this will never happen!
You will have to wait and wait and wait.... It doesn't matter how much you have donated to the project. :cry:

Why wont this "ever happen"? Could you tell us what you base that on?
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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby SERBIAN on 22 Jul 2008, 11:07

As a developer myself I know that porting apps for new platform or changed sys needs time so Im willing to wait and dont have any problems with that..Please note that some code needs to be changed probably and lot of testings has to be done so I think we should wait a bit :)
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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby tommy on 23 Jul 2008, 08:44

We know for sure that SwirlyMMS does not work out-of-the-box on 2.0. We must first do a porting effort to get it to work and this is of course something that we will do. Today we cannot say when this will be finished, so yes, you will have to wait and wait and wait. ;-) But hopefully not too long...

And yes, Cydia will definitely be used for the distribution. Installer too if it gets ported over... As far as I know there are not too many apps, besides numerous command-line utilities from Erica and the command-line tools that comes bundled with Cydia, available in Cydia yet. So if you are interested in the good-old 3rd party apps you should wait a little longer before you upgrade.

/Tommy
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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby lonnie on 23 Jul 2008, 17:26

tommy wrote:We know for sure that SwirlyMMS does not work out-of-the-box on 2.0. We must first do a porting effort to get it to work and this is of course something that we will do. Today we cannot say when this will be finished, so yes, you will have to wait and wait and wait. ;-) But hopefully not too long...

And yes, Cydia will definitely be used for the distribution. Installer too if it gets ported over... As far as I know there are not too many apps, besides numerous command-line utilities from Erica and the command-line tools that comes bundled with Cydia, available in Cydia yet. So if you are interested in the good-old 3rd party apps you should wait a little longer before you upgrade.

/Tommy


From what I've been reading lately there's a few approaches to porting.. one would be to port over fully to the 2.0 toolchain which requires renaming a bunch of functions essentially, as well as dealing with the way apple changed the keyboard behaviors.. then there is the compatability chain which allows you to compile your code pretty much as it is .. but that may not work in future 2.0 releases..

Using the compatability libraries (found in Cydia) .. you could compile a 2.0 release quickly while working on a full 2.0 port later on ..

I realize we're still looking at a couple of weeks before we'll see it, but using the compatability libraries it might lessen the initial effort.

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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby TheSin on 23 Jul 2008, 19:49

Although I agree with you, I don't think it's going to be that much work to replace the calls, most the functions work the same just have new names, a simple perl -pi should deal with that pretty easy, I wish the source was around so I could be at least trying to help.

lonnie wrote:
tommy wrote:We know for sure that SwirlyMMS does not work out-of-the-box on 2.0. We must first do a porting effort to get it to work and this is of course something that we will do. Today we cannot say when this will be finished, so yes, you will have to wait and wait and wait. ;-) But hopefully not too long...

And yes, Cydia will definitely be used for the distribution. Installer too if it gets ported over... As far as I know there are not too many apps, besides numerous command-line utilities from Erica and the command-line tools that comes bundled with Cydia, available in Cydia yet. So if you are interested in the good-old 3rd party apps you should wait a little longer before you upgrade.

/Tommy


From what I've been reading lately there's a few approaches to porting.. one would be to port over fully to the 2.0 toolchain which requires renaming a bunch of functions essentially, as well as dealing with the way apple changed the keyboard behaviors.. then there is the compatability chain which allows you to compile your code pretty much as it is .. but that may not work in future 2.0 releases..

Using the compatability libraries (found in Cydia) .. you could compile a 2.0 release quickly while working on a full 2.0 port later on ..

I realize we're still looking at a couple of weeks before we'll see it, but using the compatability libraries it might lessen the initial effort.
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Re: Swirly thoughts on iPhone 3G, fimware 2.0 and App Store...

Postby lonnie on 24 Jul 2008, 21:34

Yes, I'm aware that the porting effort itself is minimal for the most part.. they will probably knock it out in a single night, but it'll still be a couple of weeks unfortunately before they can get to the porting effort .. so we'll just have to wait patiently :)

I went ahead and upgraded my phone and the app store is awesome.. lots of good free apps, and one commercial app I bought .. lacking MMS sucks, but at least I'm keeping myself preoccupied

TheSin wrote:Although I agree with you, I don't think it's going to be that much work to replace the calls, most the functions work the same just have new names, a simple perl -pi should deal with that pretty easy, I wish the source was around so I could be at least trying to help.

lonnie wrote:
tommy wrote:We know for sure that SwirlyMMS does not work out-of-the-box on 2.0. We must first do a porting effort to get it to work and this is of course something that we will do. Today we cannot say when this will be finished, so yes, you will have to wait and wait and wait. ;-) But hopefully not too long...

And yes, Cydia will definitely be used for the distribution. Installer too if it gets ported over... As far as I know there are not too many apps, besides numerous command-line utilities from Erica and the command-line tools that comes bundled with Cydia, available in Cydia yet. So if you are interested in the good-old 3rd party apps you should wait a little longer before you upgrade.

/Tommy


From what I've been reading lately there's a few approaches to porting.. one would be to port over fully to the 2.0 toolchain which requires renaming a bunch of functions essentially, as well as dealing with the way apple changed the keyboard behaviors.. then there is the compatability chain which allows you to compile your code pretty much as it is .. but that may not work in future 2.0 releases..

Using the compatability libraries (found in Cydia) .. you could compile a 2.0 release quickly while working on a full 2.0 port later on ..

I realize we're still looking at a couple of weeks before we'll see it, but using the compatability libraries it might lessen the initial effort.

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